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old town girl said...
Mike, this is not pertinent to the fire board meeting, but nowhere else to put it... Did you see that the new daycare center in Anson is calling itself, "Primrose School of Zionsville"? Now correct me if I'm wrong, but not only is the building within town limits -- behind the new signs even -- but also their mailing address is Whitestown. Is Whitestown's reputation really so heinous that our businesses now just lie about where they are located? This isn't like the Lowe's that actually has a Zionsville mailing address. This is petty stuff, but incredibly annoying.
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Here is a quote from the front page of their website.
"The Primrose School at Anson in Zionsville, Indiana is a quality private preschool. Our facility is located in the city of Zionsville near the intersection of state route 334 and county road 650 E."
I don't think I want to send my kid to a bunch of people who are not even smart enough to know what town they are located within!!!
How can anyone be so clueless? Whitestown address, whitestown phone number, and a Whitestown sign right across the street. DUH!
Old town girl asked: "Is Whitestown's reputation really so heinous that our businesses now just lie about where they are located?"
Based on what some business are doing, the answer is apparently "yes."
You guys need to take a hint and get in touch with reality.
Whitestown has a lousy image and reputation. Anson and Zionsville do not. It's a fact. If I owned a business close by, I most certainly would not want to associate my business with the Whitestown name.
Perception is reality. The perception of Whitestown is not very good at all. This is reality speaking. You guys need to sober up and understand this.
I strongly recommend to Town Council that they seriously consider changing the town's name to Anson. It will help out tremendously.
I also believe that everyone in Whitestown needs to stop drinking the city's tap water. This extremely expensive stuff is having a negative impact on people's minds.
The way to sober up and get in touch with reality once again is to drink bottled water. It's less expensive and tastes much better. I don't even think the grass likes to taste Whitestown water.
Wake up folks. People don't want to be associated with Whitestown.
The question I bring to Town Council's attention is the following: Going forward what are you going to do to change your town's lousy image and reputation?
Answer: Get rid of the Water Utility would be a good start.
First off, I have nothing against Zionsville at all; I love everything about that town. This solely falls back on Duke.
How many times can you be passed over in one development?
Take a look at Anson’s website. Compare how many times Zionsville is listed to Whitestown. I found a 9-0 comparison. Susan Austin and the rest of utility staff was screwed over and embarrassed with the Lowe’s debacle and we got an eight inch sign that was covered up completely by bushes until people complained. Then 30 seconds later they request 10 year abatement.
After getting transferred for 20 minutes by Primrose, I was finally told it was suggested they associate themselves with Zionsville instead of Whitestown BY DUKE.
Duke, I have a question for you. What is so embarrassing about Whitestown? I imagine you will have time to find an answer to that question because the next time you see me in a public meeting, you will be asked that exact question.
Whenever a new business calls for police service, WPD responds. The first question that comes out of the victim’s mouth…why didn’t ZPD respond. Yet another slap in the face to a department that has made 180 degree turn around.
Bringing development to Whitestown is great. But when you disassociate yourself as far as possible, then turn around and ask for tax abatements is a disgrace.
Enough is enough. If you have been to any meetings recently you will see that the representatives sent by Duke rarely acknowledge I even exist. Mike you know based on previous conversations with me that I could care less what developers think of me. I ran for office to help steer Whitestown in the right direction, not to get buddy-buddy with the people that are stepping over Whitestown to get to Zionsville.
My hat's off to Kyle West for an excellent and informative comment.
To the anonymous posters who continue to perpetuate a negative image of this town, I just have 2 words for you "F--- O--".
The current Whitestown Council has made great strides toward improving the towns image which was partly tarnished by the actions of PREVIOUS council actions.
Duke has the ability, and responsibility, to help improve the image of the town of which they are apart.
I think it is time to demand that Duke take a more proactive approach to helping the town council or quit putting them on the meeting agendas where they ask for all kinds of things that benefit Duke.
If I were on the council and Duke came into ask for an abatement right now, I would tell them to "kiss my ass, go ask ZIONSVILLE for your abatement" (nothing personal against Zville)
I find it deploreable that Duke told Primrose to associate themselves with Zionsville.
I think Somebody has some explaining to do......CRAIG ANDERSON...ARE YOU LISTENING???
I think it's funny that Whitestown has this "reputation". Give me a break! Most people I know don't even know where Whitestown is. In fact, usually when I tell people where I live, they think I'm talking about Whiteland, down in Johnson County. There is only this scary "reputation" among the old timers in Boone County. I don't mind that no one knows about our town... they will soon enough!
I am not originally from Boone County and moved to Whitestown because I saw a potential for growth, and I wanted to be one of the first investors. This idea that Whitestown is perhaps on par with Gary for being the worst town in Indiana exists only in the minds of local nuts who get way too caught up in gossip. No one outside of Boone County has any idea of our past problems with town council members, etc.
Duke isn't pushing businesses to associate with Zionsville because an association with Whitestown somehow sullies a business! They're pushing Zionsville because it's known to be an affluent community -- that means people with money will be patronizing these businesses. Part of their pitch to get businesses to sign on to Anson is that they will have these upscale customers. So of course the business then associates with Zionsville. All that says about Whitestown is that we are more working class -- hardly a bad reputation!
The Primrose School situation is just ridiculous though. If they wanted to be in Zionsville, that's where they should have built their facility. It's like building a hotel in Lafayette and calling it "The Hilton of Chicago" because it's just up the road.
Well said old town girl. Thank you.
I'm so happy that other people "get it" and understands that it's a handful of delusional nutcases that do their best to perpetuate a negative image of Boone County's fastest growing, most diversified, hot spot for business and residential.
I am very sad about the death of the Nurse in Anson Townhomes from the beating from her exhubby...but after reading the article in the Indy News Saturday morning....it said that Whitestown was investigating it and was the officers on scene...It just shows that Anson is in Whitestown and the officers are professional and were trained to handle whatever. So open up your eyes Duke,,,,Anson is in WHITESTOWN...And no Whitestown shouldnt change its name...If you dont like the image of Whitestown has in your eyes.....MOVE
If Duke didnt want to be annexed into Whitestown, why did they almost plea with us to annex them....Duke if you dont like it..to bad you did it to yourselves. But we all have to remember that the past Boone County Commissioners are responsible for the creation of Anson not the TownBoard. I believe if the Board knew of all this they would have told Duke to get out of our backyard...we dont want you here
If Mr. Hancock is the spokesperson for the community of Whitestown, then what would be the motivation of any business to align itself with Whitestown? I would think that the name of a business is of less importance than the fact that a business has established itself within Whitestown. Don't those businesses employ people with that community. I can guarantee that the owners, management of Lowes, Primrose and all other businesses wouldn't tell anyone to F---O--.
Mr. Hancock must be incapable of civil and open discussions, and can't see the forrest through the trees. Any business is good business within Whitestown, jobs will and are being created.
--Unemployed Resident of Whitestown
I never claimed to be the spokesperson for the town. You apparently NEVER read the big disclaimer at the top of the blog!
It's also obvious that you haven't been following along (or just totally missed the point)and I don't have time right now to bring you up to speed.
Question--If these businesses are hiring local residents, then why are you unemployed?
You're showing your intellectual immmaturity and incapacity for learning.
My wife died of cancer 3 months ago, and I spent all I had and 6 months of my life by her side. I'm not originally from this town, but found a house here that I could afford to start over and find a job.
I know the issues, and I'm guessing my education level exceeds yours. I'm saying that unemployment is high, and all the businesses we can get in this area are a plus for our community.
Thanks for being rude, and insensitive. I hope I never have the "pleasure" of meeting you.
I'm truly sorry for your loss.
Reminder-You came to my blog and attacked me first. You don't know me any more that I know you, yet you insult me and call me rude.
That is just outrageous.
The fact that you are not from this area just goes to prove my point that this issue has the deepest meaning for those of us who have ALWAYS called Whitestown home and just want our little town to finally get it's due.
Based on your incorrect assessment of me, you wouldn't know me if we did meet.
I am not attacking you and you just proved my point. You haven't addressed the issue that you should be grateful businesses are coming into Whitestown. I bet there are far more important issues than the naming of businesses.
You don't seem like you are happy...I hope you find happiness, and can limit the stress in your life. Fight for lower taxes, a cleaner environment, and lowering the unemployment rate in our county.
Thanks for your time, and I'll sign off for good.
You did attack me, and again you are wrong about me.
Thanks for the input.
Peace.
I can not believe I am doing this, but since I am waiting on a work call I guess I will.
First, I could care less what any business in Whitestown wants to name its self, all the county option taxes for employees go to Whitestown, when any abatements run out, Whitestown will be collecting the revenues.
Second,
Kyle,
I have noticed and continue to be impressed with your accomplishments as a Whitestown Town council member. Your right the change in the Whitestown Police Dept. has not gone un-noticed..
The current council has worked hard and brought the town a long way, even though there are still some bumps to over
Ok, now for Mike and the anonymous poster.
Go to your neutral corners.
For the anonymous poster who claims not to know Mike, your missing out. While he and I do not always; agree your never going to find a kinder more giving person anywhere. You have caught him on subject that has been growing for some time.
I have to admit when I first heard about Primrose I was a little upset and the started thinking about the bigger picture.
As to challenging based on education, well your formal education may be higher but from your tone I wonder about the intelect.
Throwing your loss into the fray, while I am sorry for you personally, it had nothing to do with the subject.
BTW: At least we now show up on the WTHR weather radar and get mentioned when bad weather is headed our way :)
L.J.
Anonymous said, "I bet there are far more important issues than the naming of businesses."
Well of course there are. No one thinks any of this is the end of the world. Even in my original post, I fully admit my grievances are petty. That doesn't mean they're not valid or worthy of being discussed. This is an informal blog that Mike is kind enough to run for local residents, and he can use it as he sees fit. If you have a problem with the content, perhaps you could start your own blog. They're free, you know!
Also, I'm very sorry for the loss of your wife, but it was unfair of you to use that information to try to shame Mike for questioning your unemployment.
Back to the topic at hand, I think it's great that Whitestown has been able to land a variety of employers in the last few years. I believe the resentment of Duke/Anson stems from the fact that Whitestown has created an excellent business climate for Anson to thrive, yet Zionsville gets all the love. No one actually wants to turn away business or new jobs. We just wish these Anson businesses would participate in our community in addition to taking our tax abatements.
THIS CAN BE A VERY SIMPLE FIX!!!!
THE TOWN OF WHITESTOWN NEEDS TO CHANGE THE ZIP CODE TO 46075 AND EVERYONE MOOCHING OFF OF ZIONSVILLE WILL END!!!!!!!!!
AMEN!
I've been saying the same thing for a long time now, and I've asked board members to make this happen!
Mike,
you wrote,
"Is Whitestown's reputation really so heinous that our businesses now just lie about where they are located?"
well unfortunatly the previous Board did make that happen.
it may take some time to "undo" the hurt of the old board, but I can tell you that it does not help to get into an argument as to blame and to threaten sanctions if you don't play well. if we (Whitestown) own up to our past mistakes and just keep moveing forward it will all fall into place. people will forgive. read some of your own old posts and comments you were not a big fan of of some of the past, but things work out. ignoring some of the bashes will be the best course, and we just support our current leaders, and if they start to mess up we speak loud.
The quote you sited was actually made by Old Town Girl, but I understand what you are saying.
I realize this product is pretty well beat dead already. But despite their address, Primrose school is located within the Zionsville school district, and the majority of students who attend it will be living in the Zionsville School district, and their business objective is to prepare students who will eventually be enrolling in Zionsville schools. It therefore seems to me rather appropriate that they should align themselves with Zionsville.
I believe the fact that Whitestown chose to annex portions of Eagle/Zionsville school district is what created and will continue to feed this type of confusion.
Thank you Mr.(Duke representative), for your input
Mike - Although I understand your frustration, I do not think Whitestown will gain the prominence (at least in name) that you desire. It's simple really, there are too many names to be called, and right or wrong Whitestown is the last choice compared to Anson or Zionsville (if my mailing address was Zionsville that would be what I would use too).
I agree with the fact that if you don't like Whitestown move, however if Whitestown wants to develop it's reputation in business changes will have to considered, I think Whitestown is a charming little place with a lot of potential, but have to say, I am ashamed to say the name of the town I live in due to the stigma. Each generation feels differently about these things.
I'm not even gonna dignify the "stigma" comment with a response, this issue has been beat to death and proven false time and time again!
Replying to June 30, 2009 10:01 AM:
I am curious about which generation is embarrassed to live in Whitestown.
Old town girl,
My guess is the the fat white girl wwho almost drove over a flock of geese today.
She was driving a silver SUV, and after she passed the traffic I blocked off for the geese to cross just before the first round about, I followed her to Michigan and 96 and guess where she was going.
You got it the deli, the porker needed more ham and cheese.
These are the knd of people that belong in ZEU and not Whitestown.
L.J.
Okay, I am 46 and a little overweight, I don't drive an SUV nor did I almost run over a flock of geese, and I don't frequent delicatessens on the north side either. I have lived in a lot of different regions of the Southern US and South Africa, maybe my take on the whole matter is a little different.
With the greatess respect- a hilarious comment though, it is those same judgments that make us all jump to conclusions and create stereotypes. I suppose the people in the town can call it what they like and business's will call it something else.
Thanks for letting me reply.
Jami Rome
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